Every
successive generation seems to be getting sicker, with more illness and
disability. This despite government claims that the science of diet has
mostly improved from just 50 years ago. These claims are far from the
reality the modern world and its population experiences. Our
grandparents used to make their own butter, cook with lard (?), fry their
foods, drink full cream milk and they still looked so healthy while
living so heartily. How did they do it? For starters they ate less, but
their food was also healthier. Today we cut carbs, remove fat, cook
less, eat more, consume genetically modified, artificially sweetened,
processed foods and spend most of our time sitting. See the difference?
The trend becomes unmistakable once fat intake increases for a
population. Once that number passes 30%: countries with higher average
fat intake have the longest life expectancies. Fat intake has been
transformed in modern day to low fat or no fat, high sugar and processed
carbohydrates. Grandfather-of-12 John Golding, who runs a family farm outside
Grafton in northern New South Wales, says food was scarce when he was
growing up.
“We ate less for sure because the food had to go around a big
family. There were seven or nine kids in every family so you didn’t eat
much at all. There were no ‘seconds’,” he said. “We didn’t overeat and you’d restrict your bread intake because otherwise you’d run out.
“It was all healthy food. We always had a huge vegetable garden so we had cauliflowers growing in the winter time.” In Unhappy Meals, a piece for The New York Times Magazine, best-selling author Michael Pollan says we can all cut back. Science Says Calorie Restriction Increases Life Span “The scientific case for eating a lot less than we currently do is
compelling. ‘Calorie restriction’ has repeatedly been shown to slow
aging in animals, and many researchers (including Walter Willett, the
Harvard epidemiologist) believe it offers the single strongest link
between diet and cancer prevention,” he said. “Once one of the longest-lived people on earth, the Okinawans
practices a principle they called ‘Hara Hachi Bu’: eat until you are 80
percent full.” (This was an Islamic Tradition too) Organisms from yeast to rodents to humans all benefit from cutting calories. In less complex organisms, restricting calories can double or even triple lifespan.
In studies, animals on calorie restriction diets die at an advanced age
without any diseases normally related to aging. In contrast, among
animals on a standard diet, the great majority (94 percent) develop and
die of one or more chronic diseases such as cancer or heart disease. According to the results of two previous studies, reducing calories activates the silenced information regulator genes, which prolongs cell life. Processed Foods A Culprit John says he and his wife Ollie, who does most of the cooking, rarely ate processed food. “We didn’t have any packaged stuff at all,” he said. “When Dad bought
this farm after the war, we’d milk two or three cows so you’d make your
butter and custards. “We were reared also on fried scones. We loved fried scones. Instead
of baking the scones, we’d fry ’em. They were beautiful just with
butter. In Six Rules For Eating Wisely, a piece for TIME magazine, Pollan says we shouldn’t eat anything our great-great-great grandmother wouldn’t recognize as food. “Imagine how baffled your ancestors would be in a modern supermarket …
(most items) aren’t foods – quite – they’re food products,” he said. “History suggests you might want to wait a few decades or so before
adding such novelties to your diet, the substitution of margarine for
butter being the classic case in point. Their promise was that margarine would prevent disease. People around
the globe questioned this advice, especially those who have valued
butter for its life-sustaining properties for millennia. Today we know that butter is light years healthier than margarine ever could be. “My mother used to predict ‘they’ would eventually discover that
butter was better for you. She was right: the trans-fatty margarine is
killing us. Eat food, not food products.” John, 79, eats everything but grew up on staples of rice, rolled oats and potatoes. “When mum was rearing the five of us while dad was at the war she fed
us on a lot of rice because that was cheap. I loved boiled rice with a
bit of sugar on it, but now I don’t have sugar,” he said. Pollan says the western diet has shifted radically from whole to
refined foods, complex to simple carbohydrates, leaves to seeds and from
food culture to food science. Food Culture Is Not What It Used To Be Governments here and abroad have been cautioning the public for
decades on the dangers of high fat diets. Their claims based on “their
science” concluded that it was best to avoid fat because of its extra
calories – and saturated fats raise the risk of heart disease. This
low-fat mantra has been questioned for years by clinicians and
nutritional scientists – not least because it has failed to halt the
obesity epidemic. The fact is, high-fat diets lower blood sugar, improve blood lipids, and reduce obesity. “The sheer novelty and glamour of the Western diet, with its 17,000
new food products introduced every year, and the marketing muscle used
to sell these products, has overwhelmed the force of tradition,” he
said. “Nutritionism, which arose to help us better deal with the problems
of the Western diet, has largely been co-opted by it, used by the
industry to sell more food and to undermine the authority of traditional
ways of eating. “You would not have read this far into this article if your food
culture were intact and healthy; you would simply eat the way your
parents and grandparents and great-grandparents taught you to eat.” Our grandparents also didn’t spend all day stuck at a desk or hours
at night on the couch. They performed manual jobs and rode their horses
everywhere at full gallop. Food intolerances were unheard of back then and no-one, least of all John, feared carbs. They also didn’t deprive themselves. Despite becoming a fast food nation, John says his diet has improved with age. “Our diet’s changed a little bit. We don’t eat fat or drippin’,” he said. “The problem these days is fast food. Bloody McDonald’s. “If people are getting big and fat, I don’t know why they keep
eating. I can stand behind people (in line for meals) on a cruise and
know what they’re going to order – greasy fish and chips. “If you want to give up something, I think it’s easy. Well it’s easy for me – it’s just determination.” Here’s to that. Pollan’s nine principles of healthy eating: 1. Eat food… Don’t eat anything your great-great-grandmother wouldn’t recognize as food. 2. Avoid even those food products that come bearing
health claims. Don’t forget that margarine, one of the first industrial
foods to claim that it was healthier than the traditional food it
replaced, turned out to give people heart attacks. 3. Especially avoid food products containing
ingredients that are a) unfamiliar, b) unpronounceable c) more than five
in number – or that contain high-fructose corn syrup. None of these
characteristics are necessarily harmful in and of themselves, but all of
them are reliable markers for foods that have been highly processed. 4.Get out of the supermarket whenever possible. You
won’t find any high-fructose corn syrup at the farmer’s market; you
also won’t find food harvested long ago and far away. What you will find
are fresh whole foods picked at the peak of nutritional quality.
Precisely the kind of food your great-great-grandmother would have
recognized as food. 5. Pay more, eat less. There’s no escaping the fact
that better food – measured by taste or nutritional quality (which often
correspond) – costs more, because it has been grown or raised less
intensively and with more care. 6. Eat mostly plants, especially leaves … By eating a
plant-based diet, you’ll be consuming far fewer calories, since plant
foods (except seeds) are typically less” energy dense” than the other
things you might eat. 7. Eat more like the French. Or the Japanese. Or the
Italians. Or the Greeks. Confounding factors aside, people who eat
according to the rules of a traditional food culture are generally
healthier than we are. Any traditional diet will do: if it weren’t a
healthy diet, the people who follow it wouldn’t still be around. 8. Cook. And if you can, plant a garden. The culture
of the kitchen, as embodied in those enduring traditions we call
cuisines, contains more wisdom about diet and health than you are apt to
find in any nutrition journal. Plus, the food you grow yourself
contributes to your health long before you sit down to eat it.
9. Eat like an omnivore. Try to add new
species, not just new foods, to your diet. The greater the diversity of
species you eat, the more likely you are to cover all your nutritional
bases.
Sources:aspetjournals.orgnews.com.aupreventdisease.comwustl.edu
Natasha Longo has
a master’s degree in nutrition and is a certified fitness and
nutritional counselor. She has consulted on public health policy and
procurement in Canada, Australia, Spain, Ireland, England and Germany.
George
Galloway opens by graciously thanking the Union and mentioning that the
last time he spoke involved an encounter from an enraged student about
Hugo Chavez. The video can be seen here: http://youtu.be/epPD4GYZa_8
He
outlines that his talk will be about Britain rather than the rest of
the world. During the Second World War Winston Churchill was invited by
his own foreign secretary, Lord Halifax to make peace with Hitler, a
surrender peace with Hitler. Churchill said he would rather everyone be
choking on their own blood than to have Great Britain surrender to the
Nazi's. If Britain had been invaded and Churchill escaped death then he
would have retreated to the hills to organise the British resistance. He
makes this point as there are so many people in Britain that don't
understand that any people who have had their homeland invaded and
occupied by others feels exactly the same.
He speaks of his past
mentioning that he nearly came to blows with Tony Blair in the
corridors of Oxford University, saying that if he invaded Iraq the fall
of Baghdad wouldn't be the beginning of the end but would be the end of
the beginning.
He goes on to say that the United Kingdom could be
no more as of September 2014 because of Scotland's hatred for the Tory
rule of the UK. He says the Labour party and Tory parties are like two
cheeks of the same backside, so close together they don't differ in
opinion on any of the big issues such as immigration, benefits, the
economy.
Moving on if you are caught pickpocketing in London you
go to prison but bankers who squander millions of pounds damaging the
British economy remain unpunished. Some sources around Vince Cable,
Secretary of State for Business, suggest that there are still
£100Billion avoided and evaded in income tax every year from the biggest
earners and corporations in Britain. If we got that tax there would be
no deficit, no need for cuts or tuition fees or a times of austerity.
He
tells of how his phone was hacked and how the press in this country are
rotten to the core for hacking the phone of Minnie Dowler, a girl who
messages were still being answered long after she was dead giving her
parents false hope.
Our leaders make us a hated nation; the
people don't believe anything politicians say anymore due to countless
broken promises. George Galloway concludes by saying we should open our
eyes to the state of our nation and to reject the state of mediocrity
that British politics has become. Filmed on Monday 14th October 2013.
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do is to refuse to obey illegal orders" saw Galloway expelled from the
Labour Party. But Galloway returned to the political fray by founding
the Respect Party and winning Bethnal Green and Bow in the 2005 General
Election. Mr Galloway re-entered Parliament in this March as MP for
Bradford West and has recently provoked controversy and criticism with
his comments on the rape charges against Wikileaks' Julian Assange.
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6 “Is not this the kind of fasting
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and untie the cords of the yoke,
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and break every yoke? 7 Is it not to share your food with the hungry
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Many so-called Ahadith (Traditional sayings attributed to the Prophet, including in "Bukhari",are NOT AUTHENTIC, but most Muslims are so fanatically stupid that they believe all Ahadith are TRUE, HOLY AND INFALLIBLE!
'A'isha was betrothed to Jubayr ibn Mut'im ibn Adi, before Abu Bakr
accepted Islam in the first year of the Call (12-13 years before the
Hijrah). This is uncontested.
When Abu Bakr planned to go to Abyssinia during the fifth year of the
Call (8-9 years before the Hijrah),Mut'im broke off the engagement
because Abu Bakr had accepted Islam. This is uncontested.
Of Aisha’s age at marriage
Posted by Abdul Alim
Source: Dawn.com
Written by Nilofar Ahmed (edited by BAFS)
It is said(RUMOURED) that Hazrat Aisha was six years old when her nikah was
performed with Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) in Makkah, and nine years old
when she moved in to live with her husband in Madina after Hijra.
This piece of misinformation (FALSE INFORMATION, MISINFORMATION) has led to the wrong view that child
marriage has the sanction of Islam. It must be noted that establishing
the authenticity of hadiths, the narrators’ circumstances and the
conditions at that time have to be correlated with historical facts.
There is only one "hadith" by Hisham which suggests the age of Hazrat
Aisha as being nine when she came to live with her husband.
Many authentic hadiths also show that Hisham’s narration is
incongruous with several historical factsabout the Prophet’s life, on
which there is consensus. With reference to scholars such as Umar Ahmed
Usmani, Hakim Niaz Ahmed and Habibur Rehman Kandhulvi, I would like to
present some arguments in favour of the fact that Hazrat Aisha was at
least 18 years old when her nikah was performed and at least 21 when she
moved into the Prophet’s house to live with him.
According to Umar Ahmed Usmani, in Surah Al-Nisa, it is said that the
guardian of the orphans should keep testing them, until they reach the
age of marriage, before returning their property (4:6). From this
scholars have concluded that the Quran sets a minimum age of marriage
which is at least puberty. Since the approval of the girl has a legal
standing, she cannot be a minor.
"Thus 'A'isha was 67 when she died in 50h, seventeen at the time of the
Hijrah, sixteen at the time of her betrothal to the prophet, and
nineteen when she moved in with him."
Friday, 24 September 2010 08:48 | Written by T.O. Shanavas | | |
The Ancient Myth Exposed
A
Christian friend asked me once, “Will you marry your seven year old
daughter to a fifty year old man?” I kept my silence. He continued, “If
you would not, how can you approve the marriage of an innocent seven
year old, Ayesha, with your Prophet?” I told him, “I don’t have an
answer to your question at this time.” My friend smiled and left me with
a thorn in the heart of my faith. Most Muslims answer that such
marriages were accepted in those days. Otherwise, people would have
objected to Prophet’s marriage with Ayesha.
However,
such an explanation would be gullible only for those who are naive
enough to believe it. But unfortunately, I was not satisfied with the
answer.
The Prophet was an exemplary man. All his
actions were most virtuous so that we, Muslims, can emulate them.
However, most people in our Islamic Center of Toledo, including me,
would not think of betrothing our seven years daughter to a fifty-two
year-old man. If a parent agrees to such a wedding, most people, if not
all, would look down upon the father and the old husband.
In
1923, registrars of marriage in Egypt were instructed not to register
and issue official certificates of marriage for brides less than
sixteen and grooms less than eighteen years of age. Eight years later,
the Law of the Organization and Procedure of Sheriah courts of 1931
consolidated the above provision by not hearing the marriage disputes
involving brides less than sixteen and grooms less than eighteen years
old. (Women in Muslim Family Law, John Esposito, 1982). It shows that
even in the Muslim majority country of Egypt the child marriages are
unacceptable.
So, I believed, without solid evidence other than
my reverence to my Prophet, that the stories of the marriage of
seven-year-old Ayesha to 50-year-old Prophet are only myths. However,
my long pursuit in search of the truth on this matter proved my
intuition correct. My Prophet was a gentleman. And he did not marry an
innocent seven or nine year old girl. The age of Ayesha has been
erroneously reported in the hadith literature. Furthermore, I think
that the narratives reporting this event are highly unreliable. Some
of the hadith (traditions of the Prophet) regarding Ayesha’s age at the
time of her wedding with prophet are problematic. I present the
following evidences against the acceptance of the fictitious story by
Hisham ibn ‘Urwah and to clear the name of my Prophet as an
irresponsible old man preying on an innocent little girl.
EVIDENCE #1: Reliability of Source
Most
of the narratives printed in the books of hadith are reported only by
Hisham ibn `Urwah, who was reporting on the authority of his father.
First of all, more people than just one, two or three should logically
have reported. It is strange that no one from Medina, where Hisham ibn
`Urwah lived the first 71 years of his life narrated the event, despite
the fact that his Medinan pupils included the well-respected Malik ibn
Anas. The origins of the report of the narratives of this event are
people from Iraq, where Hisham is reported to have shifted after living
in Medina for most of his life.
Tehzibu’l-Tehzib, one
of the most well known books on the life and reliability of the
narrators of the traditions of the Prophet, reports that according to
Yaqub ibn Shaibah: “He [Hisham] is highly reliable, his narratives are
acceptable, except what he narrated after moving over to Iraq”
(Tehzi’bu’l-tehzi’b, Ibn Hajar Al-`asqala’ni, Dar Ihya al-turath
al-Islami, 15th century. Vol 11, p. 50).
It further
states that Malik ibn Anas objected on those narratives of Hisham which
were reported through people in Iraq: “I have been told that Malik
objected on those narratives of Hisham which were reported through
people of Iraq” (Tehzi’b u’l-tehzi’b, Ibn Hajar Al-`asqala’ni, Dar Ihya
al-turath al-Islami, Vol.11, p. 50).
Mizanu’l-ai`tidal,
another book on the life sketches of the narrators of the traditions
of the Prophet reports: “When he was old, Hisham’s memory suffered
quite badly” (Mizanu’l-ai`tidal, Al-Zahbi, Al-Maktabatu’l-athriyyah,
Sheikhupura, Pakistan, Vol. 4, p. 301).
CONCLUSION:
Based on these references, Hisham’s memory was failing and his
narratives while in Iraq were unreliable. So, his narrative of Ayesha’s
marriage and age are unreliable.
CHRONOLOGY: It is vital also to keep in mind some of the pertinent dates in the history of Islam:
pre-610 CE: Jahiliya (pre-Islamic age) before revelation
610 CE: First revelation
610 CE: AbuBakr accepts Islam
613 CE: Prophet Muhammad begins preaching publicly.
615 CE: Emigration to Abyssinia
616 CE: Umar bin al Khattab accepts Islam
620 CE: Generally accepted betrothal of Ayesha to the Prophet
622 CE: Hijrah (emigation to Yathrib, later renamed Medina)
623/624 CE: Generally accepted year of Ayesha living with the Prophet
EVIDENCE #2: The Betrothal
According
to Tabari (also according to Hisham ibn ‘Urwah, Ibn Hunbal and Ibn
Sad), Ayesha was betrothed at seven years of age and began to cohabit
with the Prophet at the age of nine years.
However, in
another work, Al-Tabari says: “All four of his [Abu Bakr’s] children
were born of his two wives during the pre-Islamic period”
(Tarikhu’l-umam wa’l-mamlu’k, Al-Tabari (died 922), Vol. 4, p. 50,
Arabic, Dara’l-fikr, Beirut, 1979).
If Ayesha was
betrothed in 620 CE (at the age of seven) and started to live with the
Prophet in 624 CE (at the age of nine), that would indicate that she
was born in 613 CE and was nine when she began living with the Prophet.
Therefore, based on one account of Al-Tabari, the numbers show that
Ayesha must have born in 613 CE, three years after the beginning of
revelation (610 CE). Tabari also states that Ayesha was born in the
pre-Islamic era (in Jahiliya). If she was born before 610 CE, she would
have been at least 14 years old when she began living with the
Prophet. Essentially, Tabari contradicts himself.
CONCLUSION: Al-Tabari is unreliable in the matter of determining Ayesha’s age.
EVIDENCE # 3: The Age of Ayesha in Relation to the Age of Fatima
According
to Ibn Hajar, “Fatima was born at the time the Ka`bah was rebuilt,
when the Prophet was 35 years old... she was five years older that
Ayesha” (Al-isabah fi tamyizi’l-sahabah, Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, Vol. 4,
p. 377, Maktabatu’l-Riyadh al-haditha, al-Riyadh, 1978).
If
Ibn Hajar’s statement is factual, Ayesha was born when the Prophet was
40 years old. If Ayesha was married to the Prophet when he was 52
years old, Ayesha’s age at marriage would be 12 years.
CONCLUSION:
Ibn Hajar, Tabari an Ibn Hisham and Ibn Humbal contradict each other.
So, the marriage of Ayesha at seven years of age is a myth.
EVIDENCE #4: Ayesha’s Age in relation to Asma’s Age
According
to Abda’l-Rahman ibn abi zanna’d: “Asma was 10 years older than Ayesha
(Siyar A`la’ma’l-nubala’, Al-Zahabi, Vol. 2, p. 289, Arabic,
Mu’assasatu’l-risalah, Beirut, 1992).
According to Ibn
Kathir: “She [Asma] was elder to her sister [Ayesha] by 10 years”
(Al-Bidayah wa’l-nihayah, Ibn Kathir, Vol. 8, p. 371, Dar al-fikr
al-`arabi, Al-jizah, 1933).
According to Ibn Kathir:
“She [Asma] saw the killing of her son during that year [73 AH], as we
have already mentioned, and five days later she herself died. According
to other narratives, she died not after five days but 10 or 20, or a
few days over 20, or 100 days later. The most well known narrative is
that of 100 days later. At the time of her death, she was 100 years
old.” (Al-Bidayah wa’l-nihayah, Ibn Kathir, Vol. 8, p. 372, Dar al-fikr
al-`arabi, Al-jizah, 1933)
According to Ibn Hajar
Al-Asqalani: “She [Asma] lived a hundred years and died in 73 or 74
AH.” (Taqribu’l-tehzib, Ibn Hajar Al-Asqalani, p. 654, Arabic, Bab
fi’l-nisa’, al-harfu’l-alif, Lucknow).
According to
almost all the historians, Asma, the elder sister of Ayesha was 10
years older than Ayesha. If Asma was 100 years old in 73 AH, she should
have been 27 or 28 years old at the time of the hijrah.
If
Asma was 27 or 28 years old at the time of hijrah, Ayesha should have
been 17 or 18 years old. Thus, Ayesha, being 17 or 18 years of at the
time of Hijra, she started to cohabit with the Prophet between at
either 19 to 20 years of age.
Based on Hajar, Ibn
Katir, and Abda’l-Rahman ibn abi zanna’d, Ayesha’s age at the time she
began living with the Prophet would be 19 or 20. In Evidence # 3, Ibn
Hajar suggests that Ayesha was 12 years old and in Evidence #4 he
contradicts himself with a 17 or 18-year-old Ayesha. What is the
correct age, twelve or eighteen?
CONCLUSION: Ibn Hajar is an unreliable source for Ayesha’s age.
EVIDENCE #5: The Battles of Badr and Uhud
A
narrative regarding Ayesha’s participation in Badr is given in the
hadith of Muslim, (Kitabu’l-jihad wa’l-siyar, Bab karahiyati’l-isti`anah
fi’l-ghazwi bikafir). Ayesha, while narrating the journey to Badr and
one of the important events that took place in that journey, says:
“when we reached Shajarah”. Obviously, Ayesha was with the group
travelling towards Badr. A narrative regarding Ayesha’s participation
in the Battle of Uhud is given in Bukhari (Kitabu’l-jihad wa’l-siyar,
Bab Ghazwi’l-nisa’ wa qitalihinna ma`a’lrijal): “Anas reports that on
the day of Uhud, people could not stand their ground around the
Prophet. [On that day,] I saw Ayesha and Umm-i-Sulaim, they had pulled
their dress up from their feet [to avoid any hindrance in their
movement].” Again, this indicates that Ayesha was present in the
Battles of Uhud and Badr.
It is narrated in Bukhari
(Kitabu’l-maghazi, Bab Ghazwati’l-khandaq wa hiya’l-ahza’b): “Ibn `Umar
states that the Prophet did not permit me to participate in Uhud, as
at that time, I was 14 years old. But on the day of Khandaq, when I was
15 years old, the Prophet permitted my participation.”
Based
on the above narratives, (a) the children below 15 years were sent
back and were not allowed to participate in the Battle of Uhud, and (b)
Ayesha participated in the Battles of Badr and Uhud
CONCLUSION:
Ayesha’s participation in the Battles of Badr and Uhud clearly
indicates that she was not nine years old but at least 15 years old.
After all, women used to accompany men to the battlefields to help
them, not to be a burden on them. This account is another contradiction
regarding Ayesha’s age.
EVIDENCE #6: Surat al-Qamar (The Moon)
According
to the generally accepted tradition, Ayesha was born about eight years
before hijrah. But according to another narrative in Bukhari, Ayesha
is reported to have said: “I was a young girl (jariyah in Arabic)” when
Surah Al-Qamar was revealed (Sahih Bukhari, kitabu’l-tafsir, Bab
Qaulihi Bal al-sa`atu Maw`iduhum wa’l-sa`atu adha’ wa amarr).
Chapter
54 of the Quran was revealed eight years before hijrah (The Bounteous
Koran, M.M. Khatib, 1985), indicating that it was revealed in 614 CE.
If Ayesha started living with the Prophet at the age of nine in 623 CE
or 624 CE, she was a newborn infant (sibyah in Arabic) at the time that
Surah Al-Qamar (The Moon) was revealed. According to the above
tradition, Ayesha was actually a young girl, not an infant in the year
of revelation of Al-Qamar. Jariyah means young playful girl (Lane’s
Arabic English Lexicon). So, Ayesha, being a jariyah not a sibyah
(infant), must be somewhere between 6-13 years old at the time of
revelation of Al-Qamar, and therefore must have been 14-21 years at the
time she married the Prophet.
CONCLUSION: This tradition also contradicts the marriage of Ayesha at the age of nine.
EVIDENCE #7: Arabic Terminology
According
to a narrative reported by Ahmad ibn Hanbal, after the death of the
Prophet’s first wife Khadijah, when Khaulah came to the Prophet advising
him to marry again, the Prophet asked her regarding the choices she
had in mind. Khaulah said: “You can marry a virgin (bikr) or a woman
who has already been married (thayyib)”. When the Prophet asked the
identity of the bikr (virgin), Khaulah mentioned Ayesha’s name.
All
those who know the Arabic language are aware that the word bikr in the
Arabic language is not used for an immature nine-year-old girl. The
correct word for a young playful girl, as stated earlier, is jariyah.
Bikr on the other hand, is used for an unmarried lady without conjugal
experience prior to marriage, as we understand the word “virgin” in
English. Therefore, obviously a nine-year-old girl is not a “lady”
(bikr) (Musnad Ahmad ibn Hanbal, Vol. 6, p. .210, Arabic, Dar Ihya
al-turath al-`arabi, Beirut).
CONCLUSION: The
literal meaning of the word, bikr (virgin), in the above hadith is
“adult woman with no sexual experience prior to marriage.” Therefore,
Ayesha was an adult woman at the time of her marriage.
EVIDENCE #8. The Qur’anic Text
All
Muslims agree that the Quran is the book of guidance. So, we need to
seek the guidance from the Quran to clear the smoke and confusion
created by the eminent men of the classical period of Islam in the
matter of Ayesha’s age at her marriage. Does the Quran allow or disallow
marriage of an immature child of seven years of age?
There
are no verses that explicitly allow such marriage. There is a verse,
however, that guides Muslims in their duty to raise an orphaned child.
The Quran’s guidance on the topic of raising orphans is also valid in
the case of our own children. The verse states: “And make not over your
property (property of the orphan), which Allah had made a (means of)
support for you, to the weak of understanding, and maintain them out of
it, clothe them and give them good education. And test them until they
reach the age of marriage. Then if you find them maturity of intellect,
make over them their property...” (Quran, 4:5-6).
In
the matter of children who have lost a parent, a Muslim is ordered to
(a) feed them, (b) clothe them, (c) educate them, and (d) test them for
maturity “until the age of marriage” before entrusting them with
management of finances.
Here the Quranic verse
demands meticulous proof of their intellectual and physical maturity by
objective test results before the age of marriage in order to entrust
their property to them.
In light of the above verses,
no responsible Muslim would hand over financial management to a seven-
or nine-year-old immature girl. If we cannot trust a seven-year-old to
manage financial matters, she cannot be intellectually or physically
fit for marriage. Ibn Hambal (Musnad Ahmad ibn Hambal, vol.6, p. 33 and
99) claims that nine-year-old Ayesha was rather more interested in
playing with toy-horses than taking up the responsible task of a wife.
It is difficult to believe, therefore, that AbuBakr, a great believer
among Muslims, would betroth his immature seven-year-old daughter to
the 50-year-old Prophet. Equally difficult to imagine is that the
Prophet would marry an immature seven-year-old girl.
Another
important duty demanded from the guardian of a child is to educate
them. Let us ask the question, “How many of us believe that we can
educate our children satisfactorily before they reach the age of seven
or nine years?” The answer is none. Logically, it is an impossible task
to educate a child satisfactorily before the child attains the age of
seven. Then, how can we believe that Ayesha was educated satisfactorily
at the claimed age of seven at the time of her marriage?
AbuBakr
was a more judicious man than all of us. So, he definitely would have
judged that Ayesha was a child at heart and was not satisfactorily
educated as demanded by the Quran. He would not have married her to
anyone. If a proposal of marrying the immature and yet to be educated
seven-year-old Ayesha came to the Prophet, he would have rejected it
outright because neither the Prophet nor AbuBakr would violate any
clause in the Quran.
CONCLUSION: The marriage of
Ayesha at the age of seven years would violate the maturity clause or
requirement of the Quran. Therefore, the story of the marriage of the
seven-year-old immature Ayesha is a myth.
EVIDENCE #9: Consent in Marriage
A
women must be consulted and must agree in order to make a marriage
valid (Mishakat al Masabiah, translation by James Robson, Vol. I, p.
665). Islamically, credible permission from women is a prerequisite for a
marriage to be valid.
By any stretch of the
imagination, the permission given by an immature seven-year-old girl
cannot be valid authorization for marriage.
It is
inconceivable that AbuBakr, an intelligent man, would take seriously
the permission of a seven-year-old girl to marry a 50-year-old man.
Similarly,
the Prophet would not have accepted the permission given by a girl
who, according to the hadith of Muslim, took her toys with her when she
went live with Prophet.
CONCLUSION: The Prophet
did not marry a seven-year-old Ayesha because it would have violated
the requirement of the valid permission clause of the Islamic Marriage
Decree. Therefore, the Prophet married an intellectually and physically
mature lady Ayesha.
SUMMARY:
It
was neither an Arab tradition to give away girls in marriage at an age
as young as seven or nine years, nor did the Prophet marry Ayesha at
such a young age. The people of Arabia did not object to this marriage
because it never happened in the manner it has been narrated.
Obviously,
the narrative of the marriage of nine-year-old Ayesha by Hisham ibn
`Urwah cannot be held true when it is contradicted by many other
reported narratives. Moreover, there is absolutely no reason to accept
the narrative of Hisham ibn `Urwah as true when other scholars,
including Malik ibn Anas, view his narrative while in Iraq, as
unreliable. The quotations from Tabari, Bukhari and Muslim show they
contradict each other regarding Ayesha’s age. Furthermore, many of
these scholars contradict themselves in their own records. Thus, the
narrative of Ayesha’s age at the time of the marriage is not reliable
due to the clear contradictions seen in the works of classical scholars
of Islam.
Therefore, there is absolutely no reason
to believe that the information on Ayesha’s age is accepted as true
when there are adequate grounds to reject it as myth. Moreover, the
Quran rejects the marriage of immature girls and boys as well as
entrusting them with responsibilities.
T.O. Shanavas is a physician based in Michigan. This article first appeared in The Minaret in March 1999.
What
Was The Age of Ummul Mo'mineen Ayesha (May Allah be pleased with her)
When She Married To Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him)?
By
Imam Chaudhry
Some
people believe that Ayesha (May Allah be pleased with her) was nine
years old at the time of her marriage with Mohammad (peace be upon him)
was consummated.
The age of Ayesha (ra) has been grossly mis-reported in the ahadith.
Not only that, I think that the narratives reporting this event are
not only highly unreliable but also that on the basis of other
historical data, the event reported, is quite an unlikely happening.
Let us look at the issue from an objective standpoint. My reservations
in accepting the narratives, on the basis of which, Ayeshas (ra) age at
the time of her marriage with the Prophet (pbuh) is held to be nine
years are:
Most of these narratives are reported only by Hisham ibn `urwah
reporting on the authority of his father. An event as well known as
the one being reported, should logically have been reported by more
people than just one, two or three.
It is quite strange that no one from Medinah, where Hisham ibn `urwah lived the first seventy one years of his life has narrated the event, even though in Medinah his pupils included people as well known as Malik ibn Anas. All the narratives of this event have been reported by narrators from Iraq, where Hisham is reported to have had shifted after living in Medinah for seventy one years.
Tehzibu'l-tehzib, one of the most well known books on the
life and reliability of the narrators of the traditions of the Prophet
(pbuh) reports that according to Yaqub ibn Shaibah: "narratives reported by Hisham are reliable except those that are reported through the people of Iraq". It further states that Malik ibn Anas objected on those narratives of Hisham which were reported through people of Iraq. (vol 11, pg 48 - 51)
Mizanu'l-ai`tidal, another book on the narrators of the traditions of the Prophet (pbuh) reports that when he was old, Hisham's memory suffered quite badly. (vol 4, pg 301 - 302)
According to the generally accepted tradition, Ayesha (ra) was born about eight years before Hijrah. But according to another narrative in Bukhari (kitabu'l-tafseer) Ayesha (ra) is reported to have said that at the time Surah Al-Qamar,
the 54th chapter of the Qur'an, was revealed, "I was a young girl".
The 54th surah of the Qur'an was revealed nine years before Hijrah. According to this tradition, Ayesha (ra) had not only been born before the revelation of the referred surah, but was actually a young girl (jariyah), not an infant (sibyah) at that time. Obviously, if this narrative is held to be true, it is in clear contradiction with the narratives reported by Hisham ibn `urwah. I see absolutely no reason that after the comments of the experts on the narratives of Hisham ibn `urwah, why we should not accept this narrative to be more accurate.
According to a number of narratives, Ayesha (ra) accompanied the Muslims in the battle of Badr and Uhud. Furthermore, it is also reported in books of hadith and history that no one under the age of 15 years was allowed to take part in the battle of Uhud. All the boys below 15 years of age were sent back. Ayesha's (ra) participation in the battle of Badr and Uhud
clearly indicate that she was not nine or ten years old at that time.
After all, women used to accompany men to the battle fields to help
them, not to be a burden on them.
According to almost all the historians Asma (ra), the elder sister of Ayesha (ra) was ten years older than Ayesha (ra). It is reported in Taqri'bu'l-tehzi'b as well as Al-bidayah wa'l-nihayah that Asma (ra) died in 73 hijrah when she was 100 years old. Now, obviously if Asma (ra) was 100 years old in 73 hijrah she should have been 27 or 28 years old at the time of hijrah. If Asma (ra) was 27 or 28 years old at the time of hijrah, Ayesha (ra) should have been 17 or 18 years old at that time. Thus, Ayesha (ra), if she got married in 1 AH (after hijrah) or 2 AH, was between 18 to 20 years old at the time of her marriage.
Tabari in his treatise on Islamic history, while mentioning Abu Bakr (ra) reports that Abu Bakr had four children and all four were born during the Jahiliyyah -- the pre Islamic period. Obviously, if Ayesha (ra) was born in the period of jahiliyyah, she could not have been less than 14 years in 1 AH -- the time she most likely got married.
According to Ibn Hisham, the historian, Ayesha (ra) accepted Islam quite some time before Umar ibn Khattab
(ra). This shows that Ayesha (ra) accepted Islam during the first year
of Islam. While, if the narrative of Ayesha's (ra) marriage at seven
years of age is held to be true, Ayesha (ra) should not have been born
during the first year of Islam.
Tabari has also reported that at the time Abu Bakr planned on migrating to Habshah (8 years before Hijrah), he went to Mut`am -- with whose son Ayesha (ra) was engaged -- and asked him to take Ayesha (ra) in his house as his son's wife. Mut`am refused, because Abu Bakr had
embraced Islam, and subsequently his son divorced Ayesha (ra). Now, if
Ayesha (ra) was only seven years old at the time of her marriage, she
could not have been born at the time Abu Bakr decided on migrating to Habshah. On the basis of this report it seems only reasonable to assume that Ayesha (ra) had not only been born 8 years before hijrah, but was also a young lady, quite prepared for marriage.
According to a narrative reported by Ahmad ibn Hanbal, after the death of Khadijah (ra), when Khaulah (ra)
came to the Prophet (pbuh) advising him to marry again, the Prophet
(pbuh) asked her regarding the choices she had in her mind. Khaulah said: "You can marry a virgin (bikr) or a woman who has already been married (thayyib)". When the Prophet (pbuh) asked about who the virgin was, Khaulah proposed Ayesha's (ra) name. All those who know the Arabic language, are aware that the word "bikr"
in the Arabic language is not used for an immature nine year old girl.
The correct word for a young playful girl, as stated earlier is "Jariyah". "Bikr" on the other hand, is used for an unmarried lady, and obviously a nine year old is not a "lady".
According to Ibn Hajar, Fatimah (ra) was five years older than Ayesha (ra). Fatimah (ra)
is reported to have been born when the Prophet (pbuh) was 35 years
old. Thus, even if this information is taken to be correct, Ayesha (ra)
could by no means be less than 14 years old at the time of hijrah, and
15 or 16 years old at the time of her marriage.
These are some of the major points that go against accepting the
commonly known narrative regarding Ayesha's (ra) age at the time of
her marriage. Neither
was it an Arab tradition to give away girls in marriage at an age as
young as nine or ten years, nor did the Prophet (pbuh) marry Ayesha
(ra) at such a young age. The people of Arabia did not object to this
marriage, because it never happened in the manner it has been narrated.
In the time before Islam, Abu Bakr married Fatila bint Abdul Uzza, from
whom Abdullah and Asma were born. Then he married Umm Ruman, from whom
Abdur Rahman and Aisha were born.
These four were born before Islam. 'Abdullah, Asma, 'Abdur-Rahman, and
'A'isha were born before the beginning of the Revelation (i.e, at least
13 years before the Hijrah). This is uncontested and well-known to the
muslims.
'A'isha was betrothed to Jubayr ibn Mut'im ibn Adi, before Abu Bakr
accepted Islam in the first year of the Call (12-13 years before the
Hijrah). This is uncontested.
When Abu Bakr planned to go to Abyssinia during the fifth year of the
Call (8-9 years before the Hijrah), Mut'im broke off the engagement
because Abu Bakr had accepted Islam. This is uncontested.
'A'isha remembered the Revelation of a verse known to have been revealed
in the fifth year of the Call or before (i.e., 8-13 years before the
Hijrah). This is uncontested.
'A'isha was betrothed to the prophet two years after the death of Khadijah, or a year before the Hijrah. This is uncontested.
'A'isha did not accompany her father and the prophet during the Hijrah,
but arrived in Madinah later, and became sick so that all of her hair
fell out. This is uncontested.
'A'isha moved in with the prophet a year or two after the Hijrah, or two
to four years after her betrothal. This is unclear from the various
reports, which give different time periods, but all are agreed as to the
general time frame.
'A'isha was widowed in 11h (the 11th year of the Hijrah). This is uncontested.
She was a widow for about forty years and died in 50h. This is uncontested.
Among the people who report these facts is one Hisham bin Urwa, the
grandson of Asma and 'A'isha's grand-nephew, who lived in Madina for 71
years and then moved to Iraq, who reported that 'A'isha died in 50h.
This is uncontested.
'A'isha's older sister Asma was ten years older than 'A'isha. Asma was
27 at the time of the Hijrah, making 'A'isha 17. This is uncontested.
Asma died at the age of 100 in 73h. 23 years earlier, when 'A'isha died, Asma was 77. This is uncontested.
Thus 'A'isha was 67 when she died in 50h, seventeen at the time of the
Hijrah, sixteen at the time of her betrothal to the prophet, and
nineteen when she moved in with him.
All of the reports saying that 'A'isha was six at the time of her
betrothal to the prophet come from Iraq, as do all of the reports that
she was nine when she moved in with the prophet. There are no reports of
this from Makkah or Madinah. This is uncontested.
Most of these reports from Iraq came through Hisham bin Urwa, Asma's grandson, mostly from his father. This is indisputable.
Hisham bin Urwa is said to have reported
(1) that 'A'isha was nine in the second year of the Hijrah,
(2) was widowed in the eleventh year of the Hijrah, and
(3) died in the fiftieth year of the Hijrah ~ when his grandmother, ten years older than his great aunt 'A'isha, was 77.
The same person who said 'A'isha was nine in 2h also said she was 67 in 50h.
SOthe only reports that 'A'isha was six, or nine, come from someone who
also reports that she had to be sixteen when betrothed, and nineteen
when she moved in with the prophet. And every other report showing her
to be much older than six is uncontested and considered reliable, while
Hisham's reports from Iraq are considered unreliable for obvious
reasons.
In the case of Hisham, his reports from Madina are corroborated; but his
reports from Iraq, related in his dotage, are completely unreliable.
The Ugly Truth Podcast August 3, 2010
The
enemy within–Mark Dankof and former Green Beret captain Joe Cortina
join the discussion concerning the latest inane ‘articles’ written by
Devvy Kidd pinpointing ‘Islam’ as the real threat to America.
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What is RENSE up to? Uncovering his Satanic Agenda?
Mark, can the Truth get uglier than this?
I am only worried about the Americans who by the tens of millions
would be eager to buy this crap and push the country into more genocidal
wars!
I am happy that my grand daughter was given the name AÏSHAH (spelt also AYESHA. Was it not the name of John Wayne’s daughter?.)
AÏSHAH ( a rebel) was the only virgin wife of Prophet Muhammad that
was offered to him by her own parents with the consent and blessings of
the entire Muslim community. My research uncovered that AÏSHAH was at
least 19 when she married Muhammad. Some records mention 9 years old???
Only Sects (like the Salafis), fanatics, perverts and enemies of
Muslims and Islam will promote this garbage!
Does young wife and virgin wife mean CHILD! AÏSHAH is recorded to
have been engaged before to somebody else who broke the engagement
because she embraced Islam and his future husband did not. So, she was
definitely of marriageable age even before she was engaged to Muhammad
(some say at 17)!
AÏSHAH is recorded to have been present at the Battle of Badr and
Uhud. It was an Arab and Islamic rule that nobody under 15 was allowed
on the battle field!
Well, to the look of it, the genocidal war against Iran is well under way!
BAFS
3 August 2010
Dear Mark (both) and Joe
It is comforting to see people waking up or having woken up to the
reality of this world. The enemy from within is deadlier than the
declared enemy. Treacherous and anti-American Debbie Kidd is just a
symptom of the Jewish cancer that is gnawing at Christian America.
I thank GOD for allowing me to hear a TRADITIONAL CHRISTIAN say that
America will regain its Christian values if she was to respect the
Islamic Shari’a. Joe has enumerated the Jewish and GODLESS calamities
that have befallen Christian America, which Islam by no stretch of the
imagination can ever inflict on any nation in the world.
Freedom for Muslims around the world can only be achieved if Muslims
understand that their only solution is to join the American PEOPLE in
their fight for their own freedom from Jewish domination. What have the
Jews done so bad to Debbie Kidd (caught her red-handed in some weird
postures?) that have made her lose her marbles or whatever she got in
that reptilian skull of hers? Why is Jeff Rense promoting her?
Debbie is just trying to distract us. We should denounce her but not
waste our time with her as the Jews and their friends have a whole army
of such scum (paid, financed, blacmailed…) polluting the media, but
people will not buy this Islamo fascism or Radical Islam hoaxes for
ever.
It is not my intention to flatter Mark or Joe, but I have the feeling
that Muslims the world over should be grateful to you both, and if that
were possible, make you both into Saints to be respected or
“worshipped” in the Biblical sense of the term. I cannot find the words
to thank you all, both Marks and Joe for this broadcast! YOU ARE GREAT
MUSLIMS AND GOD IS NOT A FOOL NOT TO SEE YOU HAVE A PURE HEART! Sons of
GOD as Jesus would say it!
With much Christian and Muslim love to you all
Basheer note from me, MG–Salaam Basheer. I think I can speak for the other 2 amigos in saying ‘thank you’.
Mark,
Thank-you for this deep program. I am very new here and haven’t the feel
of the group yet.Everyone seems very wise in their understanding of
what is occuring with this terrible movement. It really has divided this
country. I read a long time ago a book by Erwin Luther that France was
so divided that Germany didn’t have any problem taking it over. I
believe the book was “Hitler’s Cross.” He couldn’t understand why the
christian pastors didn’t rise to the occasion but then they were
compromised. If they didn’t get on the bandwagon they were disposed. The
churches today may have got on that bandwagon in 1964 when they decided
to incorporate to a 501(c)3 tax exempt church. They were already tax
exempt but Lyndon B. Johnson taged onto a bill that they couldn’t preach
from the pulpet against the government. He was running at the time
against a Hunt out of Galveston and was using the pulpet to voice his
concerns. Interesting when one reads this and how many never knew it.
Now you have a marriage of church and religion and our Lord has to bow
down to the artifical person whom the Supreme Court gave status to just
recently. Our Lord bows down to the government. The church as destroyed
it’s power in this country as far as I am concerned. Corporation has
the word, “corpse” in it.
Until 1968 there was no state of Israel. It is our 51 state now. For
2,000 years they have rejected Christ. I want to say, I don’t hate Jews.
I don’t hate any other ethnic group. We are all Americans. Not
Jewish-American. Not African-American, not Mexican-American. That
pre-fix seemed to come into existance to somehow undermine this country.
Maybe it was planned. I don’t know. But physical Israel is the only
place where no one goes to preach the gospel yet they are lifted up as
Godly. I don’t go to church but I have tried to read my bible each day. I
find that in I John 2:22; it says: “Who is a liar but he that denieth
that Jesus is the Christ. He is anti-christ, that denieth the Father and
the Son. (also in I John 4:3) So, for 2,000 years they have had the
spirit of anti-christ.
How in the world could churchs today lift up Israel? They can’t even
preach the gospel of Jesus Christ there. From what I’ve read so far in
the bible and understood is that this nation was built by christians.
Those who were born again. If we lift up someone who is physical as the
Apple of God’s eye (so many christians are saying) then who am I? I’m
not the apple of God’s eye? This heritage I have do I now throw it off
and give it back to a physical Israel whom God divorced (Zechariah
11:10; Deuteronomy 24:1-4; Jer 3:1 & 2:21)? Isn’t that an
abomination? Like Easu trying to get back his heritage from Jacob? I
don’t read anywhere where God gave something back he took away. Saul
never got back the thrown from David. Esther didn’t give back her crown
to Vasti.
I have rattled on and truely didn’t mean to. So sorry. You have done a
wonderful job of bringing on people and a platform to help us know the
ugly truth about many things. Thank-you from the bottom of my heart. You
are truely a voice that is needed today Mark.
Vickie Jacobs
Hi Mark & Co,
Thanks for outing Devvy, & the good podcast discussion. Those two
recent “scary moozlems booga booga” articles are abominations. What a
zio-shill. I never particularly followed her, but have seen her name
kicking around patriot/truth sites for years, and would’ve formerly
given her work the benefit of the doubt. Rense needs to boot (her show)
off his radio network. She’s also been a regular guest on his show. The
number of “deep cover” zio-shills in the truth/patriot movement never
ceases to amaze me!
One thing I would bang on re Islam, is their prohibition of USURY:
World War coming 2016 & The Last Prophecies Sheikh Imran Hosein's
imran hosein armageddon
imran hosein anwar al awlaki
imran hosein bosanski prevod
imran hosein dajjal symbols
imran hosein death of saudi king
sheikh imran hosein dajjal
imran hosein france
imran hosein february 2015
imran hosein feb 2015
imran hosein francais
imran hosein feminist revolution
sheikh imran hosein february 2015
imran hosein gog and magog full
sheikh imran hosein gog and magog full
sheikh imran hosein gog and magog
imran hosein hamza yusuf
sheikh imran hosein holocaust
imran hosein international monetary system
imran hosein january 2015
imran hosein jerusalem in the quran
sheikh imran hosein january 2015
sheikh imran hosein jan 2015
sheikh imran hosein jesus
sheikh imran hosein jews
imran hosein khazar
imran hosein latest lecture
imran hosein latest 2014
imran hosein latest 2015
sheikh imran hosein latest lecture 2014
sheikh imran hosein latest lecture 2015
sheikh imran hosein latest
sheikh imran hosein latest 2015
imran hosein new world order
imran hosein na bosanskom
sheikh imran hosein new
sheikh imran hosein russia
sheikh imran hosein this week
imam imran hosein this week
sheikh imran hosein vostfr
imran hosein world war 3
sheikh imran hosein ww3
Mark, can the Truth get uglier than this?
I am only worried about the Americans who by the tens of millions would be eager to buy this crap and push the country into more genocidal wars!
I am happy that my grand daughter was given the name AÏSHAH (spelt also AYESHA. Was it not the name of John Wayne’s daughter?.)
AÏSHAH ( a rebel) was the only virgin wife of Prophet Muhammad that was offered to him by her own parents with the consent and blessings of the entire Muslim community. My research uncovered that AÏSHAH was at least 19 when she married Muhammad. Some records mention 9 years old??? Only Sects (like the Salafis), fanatics, perverts and enemies of Muslims and Islam will promote this garbage!
Does young wife and virgin wife mean CHILD! AÏSHAH is recorded to have been engaged before to somebody else who broke the engagement because she embraced Islam and his future husband did not. So, she was definitely of marriageable age even before she was engaged to Muhammad (some say at 17)!
AÏSHAH is recorded to have been present at the Battle of Badr and Uhud. It was an Arab and Islamic rule that nobody under 15 was allowed on the battle field!
Well, to the look of it, the genocidal war against Iran is well under way!
BAFS
3 August 2010
It is comforting to see people waking up or having woken up to the reality of this world. The enemy from within is deadlier than the declared enemy. Treacherous and anti-American Debbie Kidd is just a symptom of the Jewish cancer that is gnawing at Christian America.
I thank GOD for allowing me to hear a TRADITIONAL CHRISTIAN say that America will regain its Christian values if she was to respect the Islamic Shari’a. Joe has enumerated the Jewish and GODLESS calamities that have befallen Christian America, which Islam by no stretch of the imagination can ever inflict on any nation in the world.
Freedom for Muslims around the world can only be achieved if Muslims understand that their only solution is to join the American PEOPLE in their fight for their own freedom from Jewish domination. What have the Jews done so bad to Debbie Kidd (caught her red-handed in some weird postures?) that have made her lose her marbles or whatever she got in that reptilian skull of hers? Why is Jeff Rense promoting her?
Debbie is just trying to distract us. We should denounce her but not waste our time with her as the Jews and their friends have a whole army of such scum (paid, financed, blacmailed…) polluting the media, but people will not buy this Islamo fascism or Radical Islam hoaxes for ever.
It is not my intention to flatter Mark or Joe, but I have the feeling that Muslims the world over should be grateful to you both, and if that were possible, make you both into Saints to be respected or “worshipped” in the Biblical sense of the term. I cannot find the words to thank you all, both Marks and Joe for this broadcast! YOU ARE GREAT MUSLIMS AND GOD IS NOT A FOOL NOT TO SEE YOU HAVE A PURE HEART! Sons of GOD as Jesus would say it!
With much Christian and Muslim love to you all
Basheer
note from me, MG–Salaam Basheer. I think I can speak for the other 2 amigos in saying ‘thank you’.
Thank-you for this deep program. I am very new here and haven’t the feel of the group yet.Everyone seems very wise in their understanding of what is occuring with this terrible movement. It really has divided this country. I read a long time ago a book by Erwin Luther that France was so divided that Germany didn’t have any problem taking it over. I believe the book was “Hitler’s Cross.” He couldn’t understand why the christian pastors didn’t rise to the occasion but then they were compromised. If they didn’t get on the bandwagon they were disposed. The churches today may have got on that bandwagon in 1964 when they decided to incorporate to a 501(c)3 tax exempt church. They were already tax exempt but Lyndon B. Johnson taged onto a bill that they couldn’t preach from the pulpet against the government. He was running at the time against a Hunt out of Galveston and was using the pulpet to voice his concerns. Interesting when one reads this and how many never knew it. Now you have a marriage of church and religion and our Lord has to bow down to the artifical person whom the Supreme Court gave status to just recently. Our Lord bows down to the government. The church as destroyed it’s power in this country as far as I am concerned. Corporation has the word, “corpse” in it.
Until 1968 there was no state of Israel. It is our 51 state now. For 2,000 years they have rejected Christ. I want to say, I don’t hate Jews. I don’t hate any other ethnic group. We are all Americans. Not Jewish-American. Not African-American, not Mexican-American. That pre-fix seemed to come into existance to somehow undermine this country. Maybe it was planned. I don’t know. But physical Israel is the only place where no one goes to preach the gospel yet they are lifted up as Godly. I don’t go to church but I have tried to read my bible each day. I find that in I John 2:22; it says: “Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ. He is anti-christ, that denieth the Father and the Son. (also in I John 4:3) So, for 2,000 years they have had the spirit of anti-christ.
How in the world could churchs today lift up Israel? They can’t even preach the gospel of Jesus Christ there. From what I’ve read so far in the bible and understood is that this nation was built by christians. Those who were born again. If we lift up someone who is physical as the Apple of God’s eye (so many christians are saying) then who am I? I’m not the apple of God’s eye? This heritage I have do I now throw it off and give it back to a physical Israel whom God divorced (Zechariah 11:10; Deuteronomy 24:1-4; Jer 3:1 & 2:21)? Isn’t that an abomination? Like Easu trying to get back his heritage from Jacob? I don’t read anywhere where God gave something back he took away. Saul never got back the thrown from David. Esther didn’t give back her crown to Vasti.
I have rattled on and truely didn’t mean to. So sorry. You have done a wonderful job of bringing on people and a platform to help us know the ugly truth about many things. Thank-you from the bottom of my heart. You are truely a voice that is needed today Mark.
Vickie Jacobs
Thanks for outing Devvy, & the good podcast discussion. Those two recent “scary moozlems booga booga” articles are abominations. What a zio-shill. I never particularly followed her, but have seen her name kicking around patriot/truth sites for years, and would’ve formerly given her work the benefit of the doubt. Rense needs to boot (her show) off his radio network. She’s also been a regular guest on his show. The number of “deep cover” zio-shills in the truth/patriot movement never ceases to amaze me!
One thing I would bang on re Islam, is their prohibition of USURY:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/02/09/MN2D15J4HD.DTL&tsp=1
Zionism is the political force of the (Rothschild) Global Usury Empire. Usury has fueled their NWO takeover of the world.
http://www.rense.com/general86/zelephant.htm
I suspect Islam’s prohibition of USURY may be a core reason for Zionism’s relentless vilification propaganda re Islam… know what I mean?
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